“Without a robust regulatory framework in place in the EU, e-cigarettes are now hanging in a legal limbo. It is essential that this emerging range of products is urgently regulated to safeguard people’s health”, said Monika Kosińska, Secretary General of the European Public Health Alliance (EPHA).
E-cigs are not a ‘concern’ for public health. They are not a smoking cessation product… not NRT… not a medicine… and there is no evidence of any harm, risk or hazard to public health that would warrant regulation. In other words, no scientific reason nor evidenced cause for any ‘public health’ oriented advocacy group to become involved. Whatsoever.
Under normal circumstances, a new consumer product is conceived, designed, tested, manufactured, boxed, distributed, sold and used under existing regulations. If a problem develops, an evidenced determination is made and appropriate action taken. If the product (in entirety) is demonstrated to be unsafe or hazardous to health it is forcibly withdrawn from sale.
These regulations are not draconian. Product recalls can (and do) take place where a manufactured batch (for example) contains a fault or hazard without the necessity for an entire industry to cease trading. The current system works… on behalf of public safety.
At present, in relation to e-cigs, assertions are being made regarding safety and health risks that have not been subjected to objective, evidenced determination and calls are being made for inappropriate action to be taken against an entire industry.
I challenge ANY organisation or individual that has ever questioned the ‘safety, quality or efficacy’ of e-cigs or that calls for restrictive regulation of the e-cig industry to prove that e-cigs are unsafe or are hazardous to health and have them removed from the market using current regulations and legislation. It’s not difficult… just wander into a Trading Standards Office with an e-cig of your choice and a photocopy of your eminent credentials and repeat your frequently-espoused assertions. If your complaints have merit, they will be listened to. By law.
Otherwise, folk like me will continue to demonstrate that your assertions, complaints and concerns are at best, simplistic assumption and inference… perhaps containing a few drops of moralistic posturing… and are at worst, puritanical prohibitionism and ideological zealotry… frequently accompanied with gibbering anti-tobacco-company crusading rhetoric and almost always a fatal misconception, misunderstanding, and deliberate misrepresentation of nicotine.
More people are vaping in the world than the entire populations of many European countries… and yet the voices of vapers are still being sidelined, their opinions ignored, and their evidence dismissed. This is a dangerous ploy for trialogue-engaged ministers as the one certainty that lays in the future is the ballot box.
As for ‘Public Health’ bodies and advocacy groups… they are so blinded by the headlights, blinkered, and so far stuck up their own vested interest that they are unable to understand that ’Public Health’ is not the foundation of e-cig regulation.
‘Public Choice’ is.
By Gilbert Ross – 9th December 2013
Europe’s ‘Vapers’ must unite against the EU’s ‘unelected and unaccountable’ attempts to sabotage the use and availability of eCigarettes, warns Gilbert Ross.
Two months ago, when the European parliament took up deliberations on the Tobacco Products Directive (TPD), things were looking mighty bleak for ex-smokers who had escaped cigarette enslavement via eCigarettes.
All signs pointed to a veritable ban of this new technology, based upon the EU’s deeply-ingrained, fundamentalist disdain for allowing smokers to keep using nicotine divorced from the toxic products of tobacco combustion: the smoke. Such a ban would surely have not been based on sound science.
So, have the public health agencies and health ministries globally proclaimed the Age of Gold, applauding the potential miracle of reducing the frightful toll of smoking? Quite the opposite: citing various “concerns,” ranging from hypothetical risks of vaping over the course of years or decades, to “re-normalising” smoking because of the similarity in appearance of eCigarettes and vaping to actual cigarette smoking, to the addictive danger of nicotine (especially for young people), governments and NGOs worldwide have waffled between hyper-caution and outright alarmism.
Which brings us to the current disturbing situation. The momentum to ban or severely restrict eCigarettes seemed insurmountable, but vapers throughout Europe demonstrated loudly over the past summer, and the salutary culmination – or so we thought – was a ringing veto of the eCigarette ban by MEPs on October 8.
Devotees of public health and anti-smoking groups (such as mine, The American Council on Science and Health) were beside ourselves with surprise and joy, but not so much as the vapers themselves, seeing what appeared to be victory snatched from the jaws of defeat.
Not so fast: the proponents of rendering Europe free of eCigarettes, or rendering them impotent, still held sway at the European commission and in the Council of Ministers, with whom the parliament would have to negotiate the final TPD.
By Judy Peres
No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer
A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.
“The fact that passive smoking may not be strongly associated with lung cancer points to a need to find other risk factors for the disease [in nonsmokers],” said Ange Wang, the Stanford University medical student who presented the study at the June 2013 meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology in Chicago.
Investigators from Stanford and other research centers looked at data from the Women’s Health Initiative Observational Study (WHI-OS). Among 93,676 women aged 50–79 years at enrollment, the study had complete smoking and covariate data (including passive smoking exposure in childhood, adult home, and work) for 76,304 participants. Of those, 901 developed lung cancer over 10.5 mean years of follow-up.
The incidence of lung cancer was 13 times higher in current smokers and four times higher in former smokers than in never-smokers, and the relationship for both current and former smokers depended on level of exposure. However, among women who had never smoked, exposure to passive smoking overall, and to most categories of passive smoking, did not statistically significantly increase lung cancer risk. The only category of exposure that showed a trend toward increased risk was living in the same house with a smoker for 30 years or more. In …
This is an old post I wrote as a response to Rebecca Taylor MEP on the “Liberal Democrat Voice”. (It was written in April 2013, and I had lost it.)
What you should be aware of:-
• Smoke-free is not synonymous with Nicotine abstinent.
• Smoke Kills, Nicotine does not.
• There is no such thing as second-hand-Vapour.
• Smokers are not ill, they do not need medicines.
• Vaping is an alternative to cigarettes, not a ‘cure’ for smoking.
• Flavourings in E-cigs are the barrier to moving up to smoking, not a ‘gateway’.
• Not all e-cigs look like tobacco cigarettes.
• The regulations the EU is proposing will drive hundreds of thousands of e-cig users back to smoking.
• 48mg strength e-liquid matches the strength of one single Marlboro when used for five minutes. 2ml will last a day.
• At 4mg/ml strength e-cigs will be ineffective for a new user.
• The Tobacco Products Directive, as currently written, benefits mainly the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries, by eliminating competitors for safer nicotine supply.
• E-cigs are customisable in terms of flavour and nicotine strength, that’s why they work.
• E-cigs can achieve what taxes, laws and regulations have never achieved, and never will: eradicate smoking.
• Nicotine and Caffeine are two sides of the same coin.
• Reputable retailers in the UK do not sell to under 18s now.
• E-Liquids are sold in properly labelled bottles with childproof caps.
• The RAPEX reports mentioned are (with one exception) all about missing CE marks and similar things, the one exception being a mislabelling event for E-Liquids.
The only part of the article which does not make sense to me is the phrase –”and e-cigarette use in public places.” The ban on smoking indoors in public places was put in place to benefit non-smokers. Since there is no evil effluvium from e-cigs, why would there be a need for this ban? it would cause people again to be rushing outside to vape in their breaks, whereas now in many places of work Vapers can remain productive at their desks/workplaces throughout.
The Electronic Cigarette Industry Trade Association (ECITA) has a standard of conduct and quality control in place and reports that it is in continuing discussions with the Trading Standards offices nationwide. Their Industry Standard of Excellence covers almost all the regulatory points mentioned the major exceptions being in the hands of non-members.
The article mentions ” the new EU tobacco directive proposes regulating electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) under medicines legislation”. UN-modified, this would be a de-facto ban on E-liquid as only the biggest (Pharma / Tobacco funded) businesses would be able to afford Marketing Authorisations for the only products that actually work (ie over 4mg/ml), and they are hardly interested in the smaller section of the market, the E-liquid users!
Thank you for reading my comments. – Miles Dolphin (Hotelier)
Assorted tweets for bombs
#ecig #eu #euecigban pic.twitter.com/we7Qu9uhmR
“Experts agree #Ecigs could save 5 million UK lives. #EU MEPs are trying to ban. Need help #EUecigBAN pic.twitter.com/Mp3POGMgaX”
Tobacco control industry known to rig consultations on public health policy. #TPD no different. pic.twitter.com/3zAbHDGTpk #ecig #eu #euecigban
Anyway #EU we’re not European, we’re British, French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Danish etc etc #EUecigBAN #Ecigs
Commission/Council want to ban all #ecigs except single use. This is unacceptable, we shouldn’t let it happen. #Ecigs save lives! #EUecigban
Lobbyistisch geprägte Interessen dürfen kein Vorrang vor unserer (wiedergewonnenen) Gesundheit haben! STOPPT den #EUecigBAN durch die #EU
I need a calming hour of Mr Dorn’s dulcet tones. #Ecigs #EUecigBAN
Tobacco control is a well paid disease, Fight it with #Truth and #honesty – #EUecigBAN
.@janeellison “You will have to answer to the children if you bring in a #EUecigBAN you will force parents back to tobacco and shorter lives
.@EU_Commission Never before in the field of human rights has so much been denied to so many by so few #EUecigBAN #ecigs #EU
We need to stop the #EUEcigBan. #Ecigs save lives! This is a choice not a medicine!
Zero deaths attributed to #ecigs , can you say that about tobacco? #EUecigBAN
Science already provides enough evidence #ecigs are much safer, ‘by orders of magnitude’, than smoking. #EUecigBAN
“700,000 Europeans die each year from smoking-related illness” #EU want to ban #ecigs. #EUecigBAN STOP THEM!” pic.twitter.com/NepCtbDite
pic.twitter.com/oXV7QaJ8dh #Ecigs #EUecigBAN
E-cigarettes are helping smokers http://wp.me/p3JJAd-3H via @MileDolphins #EUecigBAN
E-cigarettes are helping smokers – #EUecigBAN #ecigs #quora http://qr.ae/GPx2N
EU is planning a breach of the constitution. http://wp.me/p3JJAd-42 via @MileDolphins #EUecigBAN
“Stamp Out these Ecigs before they Get too Popular!” http://wp.me/p3JJAd-41 via @MileDolphins #EUecigBAN
How #EUECigBan Campaigners Forced XFactor Into Second Place On Twitter http://wp.me/p3JJAd-3J #Ecigs
I no longer sell Fullers beers at my hotel… #EUecigBAN #ecigs
Great vid from @MattGluggles about Fullers no #ecigs policy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R9oS1AtCPs … #EUecigBAN
What the EU snus ban means: 290,865 casualties per year #EUecigBAN #ecigs #Quora http://qr.ae/GoxdC
Public Health bodies caught in their own lies! #EUecigBAN #ecigs #Quora http://qr.ae/G2MWy
Study Shows that Among Committed Electronic Cigarette Users, Dual Use is a Gateway to Smoking Cessation #EUecigBan http://qr.ae/GoD1I
The Gateway Effect debunked again… #EUecigBAN #ecigs #Quora http://qr.ae/GoD8K
@Nigel_Farage @borgton @European_Union #EUecigban when ideology and fanaticism battle with citizens it is time to stop and think – #EU ?
Stop #EUEcigBan — #ecig #EU pic.twitter.com/XoT09fYBKx
The EU commission decides to kill us! #EUecigBAN #ecigs #Quora http://qr.ae/G22c1
@TheBMA You should be ashamed of scaremongering consumers away from #ecigs Lets not make the SNUS mistake all over again #EUEcigBan
Det pågår en viktig kamp for #esigaretter ute i Europa NÅ. #EU #EUecigBAN #politikk pic.twitter.com/8dFAxrPTob
Only if you can’t get to the #eucommission for the #EUecigBAN G pic.twitter.com/K100Xl9mb6
#EUecigBAN See sense, what you have been told is incorrect. pic.twitter.com/TI6kp7JZzL
#vapers can vote HON-LIK, “father” of #ecigs as person of the year 2013 via Le Monde http://www.lemonde.fr/style/article/2013/12/06/m-le-magazine-votez-pour-la-personnalite-de-l-annee-2013_3527157_1575563.html … #ecigs #EUecigBAN
Vaper Activism Pays Off with EU Vote Against #Ecigs Ban. #Quora #VAV #NAUWU http://qr.ae/NzlGW #EUecigBAN
First they came for the smokers . . .#EUecigBAN http://wp.me/p3JJAd-S
The MEH-Cigs are coming! #EUecigBAN http://wp.me/p3JJAd-1H
Not 1 Death or Sickness Etiologically Assigned to Tobacco. http://wp.me/p3JJAd-19 #EUecigBAN
The American Association of Public Health Physicians Supports E-Cigarettes http://wp.me/p3JJAd-2u #EUecigBAN
Wer für #euecigban ist macht sich mitschuldig am qualvollen Tod von Rauchern, #ecigs können das verhindern.
A life without ecigs is a death sentence #EUecigBAN #ecigs
Vapoteurs européens unis dans leur colère ! Pas d’#ecigs dans la directive sur le tabac : elle n’a rien à y faire ! #EUecigBAN
The truth about e-cigarettes is the fact that they clearly decrease cigarette smoking #EUecigBAN http://tinyurl.com/ndcqn8b
Ne laissez pas le trilogue de l’#EU détruire la chance historique de vaincre le tabagisme qu’est la vaporeuse . Non au #EUecigBAN
There is only one message to the #eu – take #ecigs OUT of the #TPD immediately. Civil disobedience will surely follow if you don’t
Nous ne sommes pas encore des délinquants #EU #WWecigban #EUecigBAN pic.twitter.com/uKVSXebEBU Mais…..
.@janeellisonmp Info coming from #eu re #EUecigBAN that UK the driving force behind #EUecigBAN .WHY is this? Where did this originate from?
@EU_Commission how much safer can you make a product that even skeptics agree is 99% safer than cigarettes? #euecigban #ecigs”!
La commission européenne est-elle corrompue au point de sacrifier des millions de vie sur l’autel des lobbies ? #EUecigBAN
ECIGS SAVE LIVES – #EU Ban is a Death Sentence and a violation of Human Rights #EUecigBAN #ecigs #WWecigban
BigT & BigP have money but they don’t vote ! I do! #EUEcigBAN #Ecig #EU
#TPD #EUecigBAN #WWecigBAN this is no longer a quiet protest. This is Good Vs Evil. Banning not an option.
Ignorance, cruelty or trying very hard to be funny? STOP #EUecigBAN Save #ecigs pic.twitter.com/vvfHDcq1Jq
@EU_Commission you’re making Europe safe for cigarettes. It’s a double negative: tough on #ecigs & harm reduction = easy on cigs & harm.
An #EUecigBAN on all e-liquid because it is incredibly dangerous? Where then are the thousands of reports of accidental poisonings?
#EUecigBAN we are already saving our own lives. We don’t need your help to destroy that.
YES, #ecigs are a gateway!
A Gateway to NON SMOKING
A Gateway to LIFE
A Gateway to FREEDOM
No lighters, no ashtrays, no yellow fingers, no bad breath, no stinky clothes, no going outside In the cold NO LUNG CANCER NO#EUecigBAN
Excuse me @LindaMcAvanMEP @borgton @European_Union – who actually supports ANY of these weird ideas for the regulating #ecigs > #EUecigBAN ?
#vapers all around the world: Help us to stop #EUecigBAN on on #EU #ecigs . Or this will be the future for all of us: http://ukvapers.org/sitedown.htm
Dampfen funktioniert! Ein Stachel im Fleisch von Big Pharma und Big Tobacco! #EUecigBAN #ecigs
Pourquoi les médias taisent le scandale?Ce silence avantage les corrompus,est-ce normal?#EUecigban #ecigs @mediapart pic.twitter.com/Wxz8egeuCT
Vous n’achèterez jamais notre silence, notre santé n’a pas de prix! Stop #EUecigBAN
I am a VAPER – I have 7,000,000 friends in Europe – and only 1 enemy #EU #EUecigBAN
Can you see any tobacco? no #EUecigBAN #ecigs I’m 50,not 5 & I don’t need told what to do by @eucommission pic.twitter.com/BOD10GszJt
We need a credible new legislative proposal for #ecigs with evidence, impact assessment, consultation, scrutiny. No #EUecigBAN @EU_Health
“If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law.” ― Winston Churchill #EUEcigBan
#euecigban FIGHT IT! Retweet! pic.twitter.com/6ACVJBtUcb” #WWecigBAN