Archive | May 2016

What are some lies that you’ve been told about vaping?

My answer to What are some lies that you've been told about vaping?

Answer by Miles Dolphin:

Lies about Vaping:

  1. Vaping is as harmful as smoking – Vaping appears to be at least 95% safer than smoking combustible cigarettes.
  2. The vapour is full of toxins – All detectable toxins found in the vapour are at either trace or below acceptable levels, when used as they are designed. That is, when not deliberately over-driven in destruction type tests which make the vapour extremely un-palatable.
  3. We don’t know what is in them – If any researcher does not know by now what is in vapes, then s/he has not done even the most basic document search, as there has been considerable work done on chemical analyses of both the vapour and the liquids prior to their being heated.
  4. Nicotine is a dangerous carcinogen – To date (May 2016) no analyses have shown nicotine to be a carcinogen. The toxicity of nicotine as a poison is shown in most references to have an LD50 of about 50mg for the average man : this is now known to be inaccurate and a more likely figure is going to be around 1000mg or even higher. The origin of the old figure was from self-testing in the nineteenth century. It appears to be difficult to use nicotine as a poison, as it usually induces extreme vomiting well before the danger point is reached. (I have done some searching and have to date only been able to find one confirmed adult death from nicotine poisoning in the records).
  5. The liquid is full of anti-freeze – Propylene Glycol (one of the main constituents of e-liquids) is found in antifreeze, it is put there to replace the ethylene glycol which was used previously because it is so much less toxic. PG has been, and is, also used in asthma and many other pharmaceutical medications, as well as in theatrical “smoke”. Ethylene Glycol traces were found once in a test of e-liquids, in 2009, in a sample from a company which has ceased trading.
  6. Vaping is a gateway to smoking – From the results of the largest longitudinal study of smoking habits, (The “Smoking Toolkit” study from UK Cancer Research – Dr Robert West) it is noticed that the opposite is true. Vaping appears to be a gateway out from smoking.
  7. Vaping “normalises” smoking – The opposite again seems to be more accurate. Vaping normalises “not-smoking”.
  8. Think of the “cheeldren” – With child-proof caps now an industry standard along with bans on sales to under-age children (which was instituted by most vendors long before it was mandatory) now in full use, it is fairly obvious that the vendors of vapes are in general responsible members of society as opposed to the purveyors of death, doom and destruction, that some of the zealots have portrayed them as.
  9. Nicotine is highly addictive – Research here is on-going. Nicotine does not, according to some of the latest research appear to be as addictive as was thought. It appears that nicotine combined with some of the MAOI chemicals found in tobacco is indeed highly addictive, but Pharmaceutical nicotine alone is not. Trials using nicotine as a prophylactic in fairly large doses against some debilitating diseases (Parkinsons for one) are under way and appear to be having some success. There have, to date, been no cases of addiction to nicotine as a result of these trials.

What are some lies that you've been told about vaping?

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What are the new FDA regulations imposed on e-cigarettes?

My answer to What are the new FDA regulations imposed on e-cigarettes?

Answer by Miles Dolphin:

Q: What are the new FDA regulations imposed on e-cigarettes?


That is a very difficult question to answer in a simple way. I will start by posting a link to the FDA's own website : Vaporizers, E-Cigs, and other Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems (ENDS) , and their impression of what they have done – FDA Tobacco on Twitter. Now I will add my own comments on this, and finish with some links to other peoples commentary.

  • All vaping products must go through the pre-market authorisation process (unless grandfathered in – products from before 2007). The estimated cost of this varies enormously depending on who you are reading, from a low of $300,000 and 1000 man-hours of work, to a high of $1,200,000 and 1700 man-hours, per product! This includes batteries, mods, atomisers, coils, cores as well as every different liquid (For a company producing or importing 30 different flavours in 3 different strengths it may cost more than $27 Million). This costing is out of the range for many businesses, as their annual turnover is considerably less than they are asked to pay. The Tobacco and Vaping analyst at Wells Fargo has estimated that this will take 99% of the models and flavours off the market.
    The only companies producing vapes and liquids in two years time, assuming this POS regulation is final, will be Big Tobacco, as they are almost the only people who can afford to go through the regulation procedure.
    The other problem with the pre-market authorisations is that the permissions can be arbitrarily withheld, with no reasons given, and your money is gone.
    See also – The Compliance Fallacy  and "The Cigarette Smoking Promotion Regulations of 2016."
  • The second problem with these regulations is that they don't protect the health of the US citizens at all. The regulations contain no restrictions, controls, or recommendations as to quality or contents, the only item of any importance is the complete ban on minors buying the products, which almost all vape shops (on-line or otherwise) have done for a while anyway.
  • I expect a full-fledged black market to emerge over the next few years, unless this mess of regulation is withdrawn or at least heavily modified. (see The MEH-Cigs are coming! ).

Commentary on FDA Deeming Regulations:

FDA went way too far on e-cigarettes: Opposing view

FDA deeming regulation on e-cigarettes: an effective ban on most (and on most effective) products

Bluffer’s guide to FDA regulation of tobacco and nicotine products – A month before final publication, but accurate enough.

FDA Imposes a Slow-Motion Ban on E-Cigarettes

A Billion Lives on Twitter

Predicting the black market in e-cigarettes

What are the new FDA regulations imposed on e-cigarettes?

Rise of the adults in vaping.

The government just handed vaping a gift.

Source: Rise of the adults in vaping.

Apology to the USA from the UK

My @Quora post: Apology to the USA from the UK

Post by Miles Dolphin:

Apology to the USA from the UK

Apology to the USA from the UK

“The Cigarette Smoking Promotion Regulations of 2016.”

My @Quora post: "The Cigarette Smoking Promotion Regulations of 2016."

Post by Miles Dolphin:

"The Cigarette Smoking Promotion Regulations of 2016."

“The Cigarette Smoking Promotion Regulations of 2016.”